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WAS M. K. GANDHI RESPONSIBLE FOR DIVIDING INDIA? Part – 3

WHAT WAS THE DEPARTING KICK OF BRITISH?

Why MK Gandhi did not go on fast for pressurizing Congress to deny partition?

Gandhi has stipulated conditions for his every action. “Going on Fast” has certain pre-conditions. To understand Gandhi one must read Gandhi.

However the counter question is that as to why only Gandhi should go on fast?

One cannot shirk from their own responsibility by asking MK Gandhi as to why he did he not go on fast. Why did they themselves neither went on fast nor gave any call for Direct Action?

The leaders who were “Pro-United India” too could have gone on fast. Who had prevented them? Nobody had prevented them. They could have gone on fast onto the death. They too could have given a call for “Direct Action” to Hindus. Otherwise also Gandhi had to die as the result was to be the same.

In fact every leader wanted partition. The partition had become inevitable due to the Hindu-Muslim riots which was a result of the call of “Direct Action” given by Jinna to Muslims.

India was not in position to delay the independence.

It is also a matter to research that after the death of Sardar Patel why did the so called nationalists not forcibly drive out the Muslims from India?

Pakistans, Burma, Ceylon did such thing all the time? All of them have driven out others from their country in a big way. Omar and Farukh have driven out even 7 lakhs Hindus from their state in 1990 after executing a massacre of 3000+ Hindus, though Kashmir is an integral part of India.

MUSLIM LEADERS WERE LACKING IN HUMANITY

DON’T MAKE NON-ISSUE AN ISSUE. THIS BECOMES TO HIDE THE REAL ISSUE

One has to forget MK Gandhi, if one does not want to follow him.

MK Gandhi had not held any power post.

Those who held powers and were entrusted with duties and we pay them against their duties, we can pass one or other blame for their failure. Gandhi had acted as an ordinary person. It is your choice to follow his ideas or not. Gandhi is insignificant.

Do not forget Nehruvian. They always held power posts.

Nehruvians have not become insignificant. They had constitutional power and constitutional responsibilities. To perform their constitutional duties they had been paid very heavily from public account. They made blunders, frauds and scandals. They are still significant.

Efforts are still required to eliminate Nehruvian Congress. Nehruvian Congress can very easily come to power again, if the learned and elite people would go on discussing irrelevant, least significant and dead issues or non-issues like passing blame on MK Gandhi.

Gandhi is dead. You are alive. Nehruvian Congress and antinational forces are alive. Concentrate on them. If you do not concentrate on them, then you would be not be less than JAICHAND.

INDIA COULD DEFEAT FASCISTS AND AUTOCRAT LIKE INDIRA GANDHI

Narendra Modi has great respect for Mahatma Gandhi. Mahatma Gandhi has inspired many great leaders in the world. Let us not pass blame on him. He was very much tactful and he did his best for the nation. The credit goes to MK Gandhi for having firm rooted democracy in India. Due to firm rooted democracy only, India could withstand against the fascist forces of Indira Gandhi. It is only India in the world who could uproot the fascist government of Indira Gandhi within 18 months. France had taken 18 years to uproot fascist government.

Now let us expect from Narendra Modi not to act like Prithviraj Chauhan, but to act like Chanakya, to take India towards development to regain its thousands of year old dignity.

Even if Narendra Modi could not act, to the extent to your satisfaction, there is nobody else who can do better. Be very clear to prevent Nehruvian Congress from regaining power again at any cost. Your any impatience with Narendra Modi, can create a negative atmosphere to confuse the mass opinion. This would simply help Nehruvian Congress.

WHAT IS NON-VIOLENCE (अहिंसा)?

Gandhi has made a definition of Non-Violence as minimum violence. If a work can got be done by hitting a stick once, then do not hit twice.

i.e Non-violence is a relative term.

There is nothing like absolute Non-Violence. If some says that Non-Violence is an absolute term, then take him as a fraud.

Gandhi’s non-violence has no relation with cowardice.

Gandhi has said that “If I have to choose between Cowardice and Violence, then I would choose Violence.” This is carved below a statue of Mahatma Gandhi at Jabalpur.

Why did Gandhi promoted Non-violence against British government?

British believed in non-violence by law.

Democracy can make changes in the government without bloodshed.

Transfer of power or reforms can be made without bloodshed.

Exchange of ideas can make the change of belief. If the laws are providing injustice, then the laws can be changed. Mass opinion can be built up.

If the human rights can be secured without bloodshed, then there is no need to avoid the democratic way of correcting the opponents.

By logical arguments the opponents can be cornered and exposed. This would build pressure on the opponent if he has been abide by the principals of democracy.

Any change if brought through non-violence, it brings public awareness and also educate people. This steps up the society.

WHAT ARE THE PRE-CONDITIONS FOR THE GOVERNMENT AGAINST WHOM A PERSON CAN GO ON FAST.

The persons involved in governance have taken an oath, that they believe and they have faith in democratic values and humanity,

They are transparent,

They are ready to communicate with the opposition,

They are not prejudicial, but they are logical,

They are abide by the prevailing rules,

They do not have any ill will towards opposite party.

This indicates that they are ready to change the law if they are convinced.

WHAT ARE THE PRE-CONDITION OF THE PERSON WHO IS TO GO ON FAST?

The person has to issue a notice indicating the demand and the reason behind it.

The person should be ready for discussion all the time with anybody,

The person goes on fast on the principle of the public interest,

The person has no direct interest,

The person has love and faith in principle, for the other parts,

The person has no ill will towards opposite parts,

The person is ready to accept the punishment for his disobedience of law, under the prevailing law. The person is ready to undergo punishment.

WHY GANDHI DID NOT GO ON FAST?

The Congress leaders where willfully avoided the advice of MK Gandhi,

The public had no awareness and foresight on the consequences of the partition,

The public was not ready to support Gandhi and not ready to avoid the partition,

The British were determined for dividing India as Congress was ready to discuss with them on the terms of partition,

The delay in independence was likely to create more critical and serious problems under the control of British government,

The time to make public aware of the consequences and to create mutual love and faith between the two communities was very short,

Shirish Mohanlal Dave

smdave1940@yahoo.com

Tags: Non-issue, issue, human values, democracy, faith, love, ill will, grudge, non-violence, transparency, Gandhi, British, government, pro-united India

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MEDIA DOES NOT KNOW THE ROOT CAUSE OF PUBLIC SUPPORT TO ANNA

MEDIA DOES NOT KNOW THE ROOT CAUSE OF PUBLIC SUPPORT TO ANNA


NEHRUVIANS AND MEDIA HAS BETRAYED THE PEOPLE

Nehruvian Congress and Media wants to defeat the aim of Anna and people

 

WHAT IS THE STAND OF NEHRUVIAN CONGRESS?

LOOK AT THE HISTORY:

We are already aware of the culture of Nehruvians and Nehruvian Party leaders from its top to bottom level.

Look at the recent behavior of Nehruvian Number One and Top leaders.

Several corruption cases came up and reported to the Prime Minister. Prime Minister took no intensive action. Matter had been taken to Supreme Court. Supreme Court issues directive and constituted special investigation team headed by Supreme Court judge.

Look at the scams: CWG, DMK and 2G scam where the Prime Minister wilfully neglected his constitutional duties and responsibilities, Adarsh Tower, Mishandling of food grains … it is a long and unparalleled list,

A Nehruvian progeny and his mom with her near relatives,  are alleged on making money through un-authorised channels. E.g. 2G scam and they were on pay roll of KGB,

Case has been reported to the Prime Minister Man Mohan. The case will go to Supreme Court. Once again Supreme Court will give directive.

Could a common man afford to go to Supreme Court for justice?

LOOK AT THEIR AFFAIRS AT DEBATE IN PARLIAMENT.

Ms Shushma Swaraj of BJP raised a question as to why the authorised leaders of Nehruvian Congress had started ridiculing Anna Hazare who was launching a peaceful agitation and the government was ready to talk with him?

Kapi Sibbal the Nehruvian Congress Minister replies” You too ridiculed Prime Minister Man Mohan Singh?”

LET US HAVE LOGICAL ANALYSIS ON THIS.

First Point;

Had Anna ever ridicule Man Mohan? No.

Then there was no reason for any of the Nehruvian Congress leaders to ridicule Anna Hazare.

 

Second Point:

On what ground Man Mohan was ridiculed and or criticized?

He was ridiculed and criticized by not only BJP leaders but also by many people, for his own loose comments on the scams of his team, where he carried constitutional responsibilities, he neglected the duties. Even Supreme Court has criticized and ridiculed Man Mohan. E.g. “Was your Prime Minister sleeping for two years?”

 

Was there a case against Anna Hazare where Anaa Hazare was criticized by Supreme Court?

No.

Then the fun on these two persons is not comparable. Mr. Kapi Sibbal should have this much sense of comparison.

 

Third point:

Prime Minister is supposed to be ridiculed and or criticized.

Man Mohan by virtue of the post held by him under constitution, he is required to be corrected by the people, to prevent nation from anarchy.

 

If the Government is of the opinion that Anna Hazare has done anything illegal, the government instead of criticizing and putting false allegations on him, should have prosecuted him. Has the government initiated any proceedings according to the allegations?

A Big No.

Government has done nothing so far.

Not only this, but an other minister has recognized Anna Hazare as a Mahatma Gandhian leader. Therefore either the minister is wrong or the authority putting the allegation is wrong.

Both cannot be correct.

“Attack on opposition before they attack” says Culture of Nehruvian Congress: (Because they are not funding Nehruvian Congress leaders)

It is the culture of Nehruvian Congress recorded in its history to attack opposition.

Nehruvian Congress government does not like to function with proper culture of democracy.

 

There are off course many other points where the leaders of Nehruvian Congress have contradictions.

Nehruvian Congress leaders have chosen to attack on the persons whosoever is opposing them. These Nehruvian Congress leaders are determined to reply by attacks instead of going for communication with material and merits. These leaders have no respect for democratic values.

 

Look at their action against Anna Hazare (leave aside the episode of Baba Ramdev)

Anna Hazare had suggested several locations for peaceful protest against the Lok Pal Bill presented in parliament. Government denied all the locations. Then Government suggested an untraceable Park.

 

Government allotted JP Park initially. Then it put a lot of conditions. Anna said he would not accept any condition. He was arrested before he could reach there and launch his protest.

 

Court ordered for jail to Anna Hazare, under pressure of government. Then it revoked its own order under further pressure of government. (Matter needs to be investigated.

 

Anna launched agitation in Tihar Jail. He said he would not accept any condition but he is ready to talk. Earlier and meanwhile all Nehruvian Congress leaders abused Anna with personal allegations. Looking to the public support to Anna, government granted permission after 3 days to launch agitation from Ram Lila ground.

 

For every point, Anna Hazare and his team had to struggle for democratic rights and they  could get the justice only after intervention of the High Court.

 

WHAT ROLL HAD BEEN OBSERVED FROM THE END OF MEDIA?

 

Indian Media is purchasable entity.

Although local media is afraid of foreign media. Foreign media is also watching the agitation. The local media does not want to miss its synthetic authenticity while presenting the minute to minute happening and inviting the so-called learned people and political analysts to discuss on some philosophical points related with agitation.

 

Media is trying tactfully to concentrate on philosophical and classical aspect of political science. Off course such points too, are synthetic and with the purpose of their own vested interest under joint venture with Nehruvian Congress leaders. The roll of such media persons has already been recorded. E.g. the phonic talk between Ms. Radia and Ms. Barkha  in relation with lobbying on allotment of ministerial posts. Most people have heard and enjoyed this conversation.

WHAT CARE IS BEING TAKEN BY MEDIA WHILE COVERING THE EVENTS AND DISCUSSIONS?

 

Care is taken that the statements of BJP leaders should get minimum coverage. If there is a scope or chance, contradict them on flimsy ground and divert the discussion onto some other point.

Prevented BJP leader from taking any advantage out of the situation.

If time permits always raised the issue of saffron terrorism, Yedyurappa and Coffin.

Baba Ramdev should also not get any coverage.

Did not find a need to call Baba Ramdev and his team members for discussion or interview.

Avoided completely these two leaders. Viz. Dr. Subramanian Swami a prominent lawyer and Mr. Desh Bandhu Gupta a prominent leader and retired Income Tax Commissioner. (Because if the media calls them they would hilariously ridicule media and its joint venture partner Nehruvian Congress.

 

MEDIA HAS AVOIDED WILLFULLY & COMPLETELY, ANY DISCUSSION ON MATERIAL AND MERITS OF THE TWO DRAFTS OF LOK PAL BILLS.

Viz. Jan Lok Pal Bill submitted by Civil Society (constituted by the government) and the Lok Pal Bill (famous as Joke Pal Bill) prepared by the government committee.

 

MEDIA HAS PREFERRED TO DISCUSS;

Whether this agitation is launched by Anna or politicians?

Whether Anna’s agitation is comparable with Mahatma Gandhi’s agitation or not?

Whether Anna is modern Mahatma Gandhi or not?

Whether Anna believes in constitutional authority or not?

Whether the agitation is supported by middle class or by every class?

Whether the agitation is a part of democracy or it is a extra constitutional?

Whether the method of agitation will strengthen democracy or would it weaken the democracy

Whether the agitation is a momentary or transitory event or a bubble or would it bring some permanent result?

Whether the agitation would enforce extra-constitutional power towards anarchy or not?

Whether the agitation is comparable with the revolt of people of Egypt or not?

 

Media has willfully avoided the hatred of people against out of proportion corruption of UPA especially hatred against Nehruvian Congress leaders,

Media has willfully avoided the basic reason of public support to agitation which is scams of Nehruvians and Nehruvian Congress leaders and their allies,

 

RED MONEY IN JOINT VENTURE WITH DAUD

RED MONEY RED MONEY IN JOINT VENTURE WITH DAUD

Media has willfully avoided point of black-red money lying in foreign banks in trillions of rupees in unauthorised accounts,

 

BLACK MONEY COLLECTED FROM DEALS

BLACK MONEY COLLECTED FROM DEALS

Media has willfully avoided every discussion on criticism of Supreme Court on non-governance of Nehruvian Congress Government. In fact this has played a significant roll to launch the wide spread agitation.

MEDIA HAS GENERALISED THE CORRUPTION ISSUE

Media has generalised the corruption issue, instead of targeting the Nehruvian Congress leaders who has played 99% roll in corruption.

 

Media has much more concentrated only on one item, i.e.  of low level corruption. Media has willfully avoided every event of high level corruption and black money.

 

Most funny part of the media coverage is that none of the Congress allies are called for discussions. Similarly media is avoiding contacting MPs of UPA in individuals, to hide their say.

 

In short media has also the same aim and interest that of Nehruvian Congress leaders. That is vested interest.  

What do people like me think on democracy?

Democracy is a system where truth is heard and honored, irrespective from which level does it come.

e.g. Rama and his ministry could not defend against the statement made by the washer man. (Read “Rama the real in flesh and blood” under the blogs of shirish-dave.sulekha.com). Thereby they had to follow the spirit of the washer man.

Civil Society has been recognised by the UPA ministry, thereby it has been recognised by the government, thereby the parliament is supposed to discuss the draft of the bill which has been prepared by the Civil Society members.

Otherwise also there is no ban on the parliament, to be open for any material discussion on merit.

There is no question or dispute can be raised on involvement of supremacy of  Parliament versus Civil Society. Constitution is superior to Parliament. Human values are superior to Constitution. Constitution is for human values.

WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT OUR MONEY

WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT OUR MONEY

In fact Nehruvians, Nehruvian Congress leaders and their allies want to save their red and black money lying in their foreign bank account. Media and UPA leaders must have executed a confidential non-closure joint venture agreement.

If this is not the truth Contact each MP individually and disclose his/her opinion on the both drafts point to point on merits. Corner them.

Ask them to resign to get fresh verdict.

If media will not do this, people will do this.

People had done this in 1973-74 in Gujarat. State Assembly was got dissolved. 

WHAT SHOULD BE THE ROLL OF MEDIA?

Parliament is composed of elected members. Now each member is the representative of people its constituency. No political party had put up any draft of Lok Pal Bill before the voters nor any candidate at the time of election. Now the dispute is on the jurisdiction of Lok Pal and the power of Lok Pal. i.e.

There are certain aspects listed in the comparative statement of both the draft.

Let us take an example for logical discussion.

Whether Prime Minister should be covered under the jurisdiction of Lok Pal or not.

Nehruvian Congress opposes  on the plea

It is a respectable post and it contains the full confidence of the Members of Parliament,

Common man replies

The Prime Minister is in fact most responsible authority. He has nearly full administrative power. The integrity of Prime Minister is supposed to be beyond doubt as he is responsible for every ministry.  A special Committee can be form to look into the complaint against Prime Minister for scrutiny.

 

It would make the government unstable,

Common man replies

This is hypothetical and absolutely political. If any party becomes unable to select its leader in the parliament on resignation of the existing Prime Minister, than it is not the fault of people of nation who should allow the Prime Minister whose integrity is doubtful.

It may invite frequent general election.

Common man replies

If a party is unable to function with the High Command Working Committee, means a party has no democratic constitution which can allow the party to withstand on resignation of a leader. That means the party is not constituted with any principles, but it is group of some power hungry coterie. Or they party is not capable to function with common program. This means the members have no capacity and talent to function as an entity though initially they agreed to it. Thereby such party or union of parties can create an anarchy if it is allowed to continue to rule.

 

There by it would create an anarchy.

Common man says

In fact if the Prime Minister is weak, lazy, wisdom less and autocrat can put the nation to anarchy. The Nehruvian Congress Prime Ministers are the proper examples who all the time carried the nation towards anarchy despite of and irrespective of absolute majority.

The nation cannot afford frequent election expenditure

Common man says

Election expenditure can be brought to minimum by constituting Voters Councils under election reforms.

A Census commission can be constituted which would be again an independent Commission with independent staff like judiciary. This commission will look after all type of elections and conducting of meetings on single platform. This would also enrol citizens and members of every type of unions including the cooperative housing societies and labour unions) This would eliminate all types of frauds in union activities and housing societies.)

(Information Commission should also be made totally independent just like judiciary. At present Information Officers are from the concern department. These officers have tendency to provide least possible transparency)

Media should take video interview of every Member of Parliament and each one should be forced to give logical and convincing reply to the queries made on the comparison of the two drafts of Lok Pal Bill.

EACH MP SHOULD CLARIFY HIS STAND

WHY MUST WE INSIST ON LOGICAL AND EXTENSIVE REPLIES FROM MPS?

MPs are highly paid. Each MP is a liability on Public Fund. Rs. 90000/- is paid to each MP per month as salary plus free accommodation and a lot perks. Besides this for 5 years of membership the MP gets life time pension. This fund runs in billions. We do know and we have not so far insisted upon any duties and responsibilities. Now each MP  should be made responsible for the precise answers to our queries. Each MP is supposed to read and understand the merits and de-merits of both the drafts. If any MP fails to give answer he must resign.

Compare:

Existing System

No politician or senior officer ever goes to jail despite huge evidence because Anti Corruption Branch (ACB) and CBI directly come under the government. Before starting investigation or initiating prosecution in any case, they have to take permission from the same bosses, against whom the case has to be investigated.

 

System Proposed by civil society

Lokpal at centre and Lokayukta at state level will be independent bodies. ACB and CBI will be merged into these bodies. They will have power to initiate investigations and prosecution against any officer or politician without needing anyoneⳠpermission. Investigation should be completed within 1 year and trial to get over in next 1 year. Within two years, the corrupt should go to jail.

 

 

Existing System

No corrupt officer is dismissed from the job because Central Vigilance Commission, which is supposed to dismiss corrupt officers, is only an advisory body. Whenever it advises government to dismiss any senior corrupt officer, its advice is never implemented.

 

System Proposed by civil society

Lokpal and Lokayukta will have complete powers to order dismissal of a corrupt officer. CVC and all departmental vigilance will be merged into Lokpal and state vigilance will be merged into Lokayukta.

 

 

 

 

Existing System

No action is taken against corrupt judges because permission is required from the Chief Justice of India to even register an FIR against corrupt judges.

 

 

System Proposed by civil society

Lokpal & Lokayukta shall have powers to investigate and prosecute any judge without needing anyoneⳠpermission.

 

 

Existing System

Nowhere to go – People expose corruption but no action is taken on their complaints.

 

 

System Proposed by civil society

Lokpal & Lokayukta will have to enquire into and hear every complaint.

 

 

Existing System

There is so much corruption within CBI and vigilance departments. Their functioning is so secret that it encourages corruption within these agencies.

 

 

System Proposed by civil society

All investigations in Lokpal & Lokayukta shall be transparent. After completion of investigation, all case records shall be open to public. Complaint against any staff of Lokpal & Lokayukta shall be enquired and punishment announced within two months.

 

 

 

 

Existing System

Weak and corrupt people are appointed as heads of anti-corruption agencies.

 

System Proposed by civil society

Politicians will have absolutely no say in selections of Chairperson and members of Lokpal & Lokayukta. Selections will take place through a transparent and public participatory process.

 

 

Existing System

Citizens face harassment in government offices. Sometimes they are forced to pay bribes. One can only complaint to senior officers. No action is taken on complaints because senior officers also get their cut.

 

System Proposed by civil society

Lokpal & Lokayukta will get public grievances resolved in time bound manner, impose a penalty of Rs 250 per day of delay to be deducted from the salary of guilty officer and award that amount as compensation to the aggrieved citizen.

 

 

Existing System

Nothing in law to recover ill gotten wealth. A corrupt person can come out of jail and enjoy that money.

 

System Proposed by civil society

Loss caused to the government due to corruption will be recovered from all accused.

 

 

 

Existing System

Small punishment for corruption- Punishment for corruption is minimum 6 months and maximum 7 years.

 

System Proposed by civil society

Enhanced punishment – The punishment would be minimum 5 years and maximum of life imprisonment.

 

दर्द होता रहा छटपटाते रहे, आईने॒से सदा चोट खाते रहे,

वो वतन बेचकर मुस्कुराते रहे
हम वतन के लिए॒सिर कटाते रहे

 

shirish mohanlal dave

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